Why you are sticking to a Guru who is not a Gnani.+

Someone posing as a Gnani is not a Gnani. If someone poses himself as a direct disciple

le of some guru cannot be a Gnani. Those who pose themselves as Gnanis are not Gnanis.

A Gnani never poses himself as a Guru, a swami, a sadhu, or a yogi, or some Guru’s disciple.

Sage Sankara clearly indicates in Viveka Chudamani (2):~ Knower of the Atman (A Gnani) "bears no outward mark of a holy man" (Stanza 539).

Select Works of Sage Sankara" also his commentary on Brihad: ~ “Though I wear these robes of a Sanyasin, it is only for the sake of bread."

Sage Sankara wore a Guru's robe only for the sake of the ignorant. So he was identified as a Guru with a parampara by religious people. For the truth seekers, Sage Sankara is a Brahma Gnani.

Thus, it proves that the religious gurus and yogis are not Gnanis because they identified themselves as holy people.

Thus, it proves that Sage Sankara meant, taking sanyasa and wearing the religious robes to earn bread. Sanyasa is not a qualification to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana, or Atma Gnana

Sage Sankara says the transparent truth of the Self, which is hidden by the illusion, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman (Gnani)

~ then why are you sticking to a Guru who is not a Gnani. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Vedas bar human worship. There is no need for the seeker of truth to indulge in glorifying the Gurus and worship them as Gods.+

Vedas bar human worship. There is no need for the seeker of truth to indulge in glorifying the Gurus and worship them as Gods.

The seeker has to go beyond religion. Going beyond religion means going beyond the belief in a religious God to realize the real God hidden by ignorance.

When one goes into the annals of history, it looks like the true Advaita expounded by Sage Sankara and Sage Goudapada was lost or mutilated by the orthodoxy because the orthodoxy's preaching and practice do not match. Orthodoxy talks of Advaita, but their practice is dualistic.

The orthodoxy has nothing to do with Advaita because they are based on the experience of birth, life, death, and the world, whereas Advaita is based on the Soul, which is ever birthless and deathless, and wordless.

There is no use of prostration to holy sandals of the Guru or indulging in Pada Pooja (feet worship) when the inner Guru is the Soul, the ‘Self’, which is ever formless.

The guru who identifies with his experience of birth, life, death, and the world, and the disciple who worships his guru’s body, will remain ignorant of the truth beyond form, time, and space.

Without getting rid of the ignorance, they will never get freedom from experiencing the dualistic illusion as reality.

People think that prostrating to a religious Guru, adoring which the worst poverty-stricken have turned out to be great possessors of wealth, and even the mutes have turned out to be great masters of speech, are ideas based on the dualistic perspective is meant for the ignorant populace that accepts the world as a reality.

From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, the world in which birth, life, and death take place is merely an illusion.

People think that prostrating to the physical Guru, which serves as the downpour of water to put out the fire of misfortunes, removes the groups of distress of those who prostrate to them.

The devotion to the physical Guru and grace with the valuable dominion of renunciation is the religious idea.

All religious beliefs have nothing to do with the ultimate truth or Brahman.

The devotion to the physical Guru and the grace with the valuable dominion of renunciation is the religious idea.

A person who realizes the ultimate truth or Brahman will throw off his religious robe and his religious identity and become free from experiencing the illusory duality as a reality.

Why worship and glorify the Gurus and Yogis when Vedas bar human worship: ~

Yajur Veda

Translation 3

"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."- [Yajur Veda 40:9.]

Then why worship and glorify the GURUS and YOGIS (human form) in place of God when Veda bars such activities and it also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time. :~Santthosh Kumaar 

Those Gurus who indulge head and heart game keep you in the prison of emotions. The emotion belongs to ignorance.+

The Self is not within the human heart. The world in which you exist hides the invisible Soul, which is the Spiritual heart.

Those who are stuck up with head and heart will not be able to unfold the mystery of their true existence.

When you realize the Self is not the body, then the question of the Self within the heart does not arise. The poets use the word heart to indicate the center of existence.

When the whole universe is created out of the invisible Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness, still, you are thinking the Self is within the human heart; you are not a wise seeker.

Those Gurus who indulge in head and heart games keep you in the prison of emotions. The emotion belongs to ignorance.

Some gurus propagate that the Nadi you refer to is called Amrita Nadi. It connects the Spiritual Heart with the Sahasrara. It is best to merge in the Heart and then see that the Heart is beyond time and space.

But remember:~

When the ‘Self’ is not the body, then the question of the Nadi or Amrita Nadi, or Sahasrara, does not arise.

Until we think the Self is within the body, it is impossible to cross the threshold of dualistic illusion.

Deeper self-search reveals that the Self is not the body, so why bring Nadi, chakras when they are part and parcel of the body.

Deeper self-search reveals that the Self is neither the body nor the ‘I’. Thus, one has to go beyond the ‘I’ meaning beyond form, time, and space. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Those Gurus who indulge head and heart game keep you in the prison of emotions. The emotion belongs to ignorance.+

The spiritual heart is the invisible Soul, the Self, not the physical heart. The world in which you exist is created out of the invisible Soul, the spiritual heart.

Mistaking the spiritual heart within the physical body is a great error.

Even some Advaitic Gurus say that the Self is within the spiritual heart. And the spiritual heart is on the left side. Such a declaration is merely an imagination, based on the false self (ego).

When the ‘Self’ is bodiless, then the question of the heart being left-sided or right-sided does not arise.

The Seeker must realize that the Soul, the Self, itself is the spiritual heart. The Soul, the spiritual heart, is ever formless.

The invisible Soul itself is the spiritual heart that is present in the form of the Spirit or Consciousness.

Without the form, time, and space, the invisible Soul, the Self, becomes naked. The nature of the invisible Soul, the Self, is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

Remember:~

The Self is not within the human heart. The world in which you exist hides the invisible and unborn Soul, which is the Spiritual heart.

Those who are stuck up with head and heart will not be able to unfold the mystery of their true existence.

When you realize the Self is not the body, then the question of the Self within the heart does not arise. The poets use the word heart to indicate the center of existence.

When the whole universe is created out of the Soul, Self, which is present in the form of consciousness, still, you are thinking the Self is within the human heart; you are not a wise seeker.

,

Those Gurus who indulge the head and heart game keep you in the prison of emotions. The emotion belongs to ignorance.

Some gurus propagate that the Nadi you refer to is called Amrita Nadi. It connects the Spiritual Heart with the Sahasrara. It is best to merge in the Heart and then see that the Heart is beyond time and space.

But remember:~

When the ‘Self’ is not the body, then the question of the Nadi or Amrita Nadi, or Sahasrara, does not arise.

Until we think the ‘Self’ is within the body, it is impossible to cross the threshold of dualistic illusion.

Deeper self-search reveals the fact that the ‘Self’ is not the body, so why bring Nadi, chakras when they are part and parcel of the body.

Deeper self-search reveals that the ‘Self’ is neither the body nor the ‘I’. Thus, one has to go beyond the ‘I’ - means beyond the form, time, and space : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

First, know what the ‘Self’ is supposed to be in actuality.+

Bhagavad Gita Krishna says: ~It is only one amongst thousands of people who strive for spiritual salvation. Even amongst such seekers, it is only the rare person who gets to know the “Self” correctly.’ (7.3)

First, know what the Self is supposed to be in actuality. Simply saying ‘I AM without the body is an error because the ‘Self’ is not ‘I’, but the ‘Self’ is the Soul, the witness of the coming and going, of the ‘I’.

Till you hold the ‘Self ‘as the ‘I’, you will never be able to get Self-realization. The ‘I’ hides the Soul, which is the 'Self'.

What is this 'I'?

The 'I’ is ignorance.

The ‘I’ is the duality.

The ‘I’ is the form, time, and space.

The ‘I’ is the universe.

The ‘I’ is the waking.

The ‘I’ is the dream.

The ‘I’ is the illusion.

The ‘I’ is the experience of birth, life, death, and the world.

Remember:~

Without the ‘I’, there is no ignorance.

Without the ‘I’, there is no duality.

Without the ‘I’, there is no form, time, or space.

Without the ‘I’, there is no universe.

Without the ‘I’, there is no waking.

Without the ‘I’, there is no dream.

Without the ‘I’, there is no illusion.

Without the ‘I’, there is no experience of birth, life, death, and the world.

The ‘I’ hides the truth of the whole. The ‘I’ hides the truth.

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ If you desire liberation, but you still say ‘I', if you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, you are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

It is time to discard the ‘I’. Never use the word ‘I’ or I AM for the Self. Use the word 'Self only for the 'Self'.  : ~ Santthosh Kumaar 

Sage Sankara is Jagadguru for the ignorant populace and Brahma Gnani for the seeking world.+

Sage Sankara is Jagadguru for the ignorant populace and Brahma Gnani for the seeking world.

Sage Sankara’s wisdom has nothing to do with orthodox belief systems. Sage Sankara is the only sage who has final authority on the Advaitic truth. The Advaitic truth is rational truth and scientific truth without dogma.

Religion has nothing to do with Advaita. The Advaitic sect belongs to the religion. Advaita is pure Spirituality or Adyathma.

The Advaitic sect is dualistic, and it has nothing to do with the Advaitic truth, which is hidden by the illusion. Mixing religion and spirituality is like mixing oil and water.

Religion is regarded as sacred and real by the common people, by the wise as false, and by the politicians as useful.

Religion and its sects are based on form, time, and space, whereas Spirituality is based on the Atman, the formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

Religions hold birth, life, death, and the world as a reality. From the ultimate standpoint, the world in which we exist is an illusion created out of the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

The seeker must know the difference between religion and Spirituality. Many people think the religion as Spirituality.

Spirituality leads to discovering the truth that is hidden by the illusory form, time, and space.

Advaita is universal. Advaita is the nature of the invisible Soul, the Self. The world in which you exist is created out of a single stuff. That single stuff is consciousness. Knowledge of the single stuff is Advaitic wisdom.

Sage Sankara’s wisdom has nothing to do with the orthodox belief systems. Some philosophers in the past dissented from this interpretation of Vedanta philosophy, holding that the incarnated Souls were separate from the Divine Essence and only finally merged with it after the cycles of birth.

All these theoretical philosophies are based on the imagination, based on the false self (ego or you) within the false experience (waking).

Orthodox people argue that Sage Sankara had a Guru. Sage Sankara himself was a Guru.

Yes, for orthodox people, he is Jagadguru, but for the seeker of truth, he is a Brahma Gnani.

The traditionally religious people are so entangled in orthodox religiosity; it is very difficult for them to free themselves from narrow-minded prejudices and dogmas, and superstitions.

These educated orthodox people are more ignorant than the illiterate. They strongly stuck to their inherited orthodox baggage meant for the ignorant populace.

Even though their own Sage has said that orthodoxy is meant for the ignorant populace, they ignore it, and they are like the blind led by the blind, following the inherited blind belief.

Even Swami Vivekananda was Ramakrishna Paramahansa's disciple. Swami Vivekananda himself said: ~ “You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but the Soul.”

There are two kinds of audiences - the ordinary ones who desire the transitory heaven and other pleasures obtained as a result of ritual sacrifices, and the more advanced seeker who seeks to know the ultimate truth or Brahman.

The Guru and Guru paramparas are meant for the first audience, to help lead their followers along the way. However, there is no need to follow any parampara and follow any Guru, those who wish to realize the truth which is beyond form, time, and space.

We should not mix religion with spirituality because religion is based on the ego, and spirituality is based on the invisible or unborn Soul.

Religion is concerned with its paramparas, not truth, whereas spirituality is concerned only with the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. Religion is not Spirituality.

Sage Sankara: ~ "Though I wear these robes of a Sanyasin, it is only for the sake of bread." (Select Works of Sage Sankara, also his commentary on the Brihad)

The above passage proves that all those who wear the sanyasin robes are wearing them for the sake of bread and belong to the religion; they have nothing to do with the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana, or Atma Gnana.

There is no need to criticize and condemn the Gurus, yogis, and swamis because they are needed for the welfare of the ignorant masses in the dualistic world.

So he wore a Guru's robe only for the sake of the ignorant. So he was identified as a Guru with a parampara by religious people. For the truth seekers, Sage Sankara is a Brahma Gnani.

Sage Sankara indicates in Viveka Chudamani (2) that the Knower of the Atman (A Gnani) "bears no outward mark of a holy man" (Stanza 539).

When Sage Sankara says, the Knower of the Atman (A Gnani) "bears no outward mark of a holy man.

Thus, it proves that the religious Gurus and yogis are not Gnanis because they identified themselves as holy people.

From the Advaitic perspective, A Gnani never identifies himself as a Guru or a Yogi or someone's disciple. The one who accepts himself as a Guru or someone’s disciple is not a Gnani.

The seekers of truth need not identify Sage Sankara as a holy man or Jagadguru, but as a Brahma Gnani.

Ashtavakra Samhita: ~ "The man of knowledge (Gnani), though living like an ordinary man, is contrary to him, and only those like him understand his state.

The Guru Parampara is for the religious people. There is no need for a Guru who wants to tread the path of wisdom.

The Guru is useless so long as the ultimate truth is unknown, and the Guru is equally useless when the ultimate truth or Brahman has already been known.

than the

A Guru is needed in the religious and the yogic path. There is no need for a Guru to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

The Guru worship is meant for the ignorant populace. Those who have chosen the path of wisdom there is no need to follow Guru or worship the Guru as God.+

The Guru worship is meant for the ignorant populace. For those who have chosen the path of wisdom, there is no need to follow a Guru or worship the Guru as God.

The invisible Soul Self is bodiless because the invisible Soul, the Self, is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

The Self, not you but the Self, is the invisible Soul. From the standpoint of the Soul, the world in which you exist is merely an illusion.

You and your Guru exist within the dualistic illusion. Performing the Pada Pooja (feet worship) to Advaitin Gurus, you will not get Advaitic wisdom.

A Guru who preaches conduct as the means to freedom believes in the experience of birth, life, death, and the world as a reality, whereas the Advaitic Sage Sankara declares the world as unreal. How actions performed in an unreal world can get moksha or freedom.

There is a need to know that you are not the Self, but the Self is the invisible Soul to understand and assimilate, and realize the truth beyond form, time, and space.

People think that when they meet a Guru, they get instant enlightenment because many people have experienced it. Such instant enlightenment is not wisdom but a hallucination. And such enlightenment or any experience of that sort is temporary.

There is no doubt that people must have experienced, but what they experienced is merely a hallucination. Experience implies duality. Experience is possible within form, time, and space.

The Guru is useless so long as the ultimate truth is unknown, and the Guru is equally useless when the ultimate truth or Brahman has already been known.

A Guru is needed in the religious and the yogic path. There is no need for a Guru to acquire Self-knowledge.

Sage Sankara indicates in Viveka Chudamani (2) that the Knower of the Atman (A Gnani) "bears no outward mark of a holy man" (Stanza 539).

Sage Sankara indicates that A Gnani "bears no outward mark of a holy man. Yogis and gurus who identify themselves as holy men are not Gnanis

From the Advaitic perspective, A Gnani never identifies himself as a Guru or a Yogi or someone's disciple. The one who accepts himself as a Guru or someone’s disciple is not a Gnani.

Ashtavakra Samhita: ~ "The man of knowledge (Gnani), though living like an ordinary man, is contrary to him, and only those like him understand his state.

In Self-awareness, ignorance vanishes, and the unreal nature of form, time, and space is exposed. '

In Self-awareness (in the midst of duality), the body is not considered as a body, the ego is not considered as ego, the world is not considered as the world, because everything is created out of single stuff. That single stuff is consciousness (Soul).

A Gnani has realized that everything is consciousness (Brahman). There is no second thing that exists other than consciousness. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar